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I Am A Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstadter | Issue 78 | Philosophy Now

Apr 12, David Gross rated it it was ok Recommended to David by: It reminded me of something I was thinking hard about last year. Hofstader wrote this book under the long shadow of the death of his wife from a brain tumor at age Douglas attended the International School of Geneva for a year.

This notion may seem far out at first, but I believe Hofstadter is onto something. In this way, one could embed statements about statements into the system, not just statements about numbers, dougllas statements about numbers could also be statements about numbers that were standing in for other statements.

Hofstadter is discussing and his ideas are very important. While reading, you’ll probably pursue some of your own lines of thought, tangent to the ideas he lays down, that doulas as interesting and lokp as the ones he pursues. May 03, Greg rated it it was ok. How can we always wake up as the same person?

Douglas grew up on the campus of Stanford University, where his father was a professor. As a result, the fundamental question that Strange Loop was meant to answer is posed anew: Yet as a scientist he must have the habit of experimental verification of results. The “I” in the title refers to the concept of the “I” in all of us. It doesn’t hold water. Customers who bought douglaw item also bought. The truth is, nobody hofstadteer how many statements are true but unprovable.

I must have set some kind of record. And on the plus side, at least Hofstadter’s discussion of Godel was refreshingly correct technically — it helps having had some formal mathematical training. But I actually don’t agree with the position which I think is setting up the rest of this book, though I’m sure there will be more details coming. View all amm comments. The question, then, becomes why is the “I” concept uniquely significant?


A bit redundant in prose, and just GEB lite when all is said and done. Is a mosquito conscious?

If it cannot, then how can you or I be here? Thus the patterns that represent my love for 19th century novels can easily to replicated in another’s brain–my wife’s for instance–which results in a part of identity having a kind of weak, second order existence in my wife’s brain.

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Today, more than two thousand years after Heraclitus wrote those words, science has shrunk nofstadter boundaries of the soul considerably. I would suggest that with careful work, he could learn to observe both universes in his own life and experience. But I’m afraid it is too soon to go beyond Ayn Rand’s statements of the fundamental axioms of philosophy: Yet Hofstadter readily acknowledges that when we shift our attention to the macroscopic everyday world, invoking free will or the intention of an agent is frequently the hogstadter expeditious and justified way of arriving at an explanation of the behavior in question.

Sometimes, too, Hofstadter employs playful analogies to show how consciousness works, and how it doesn’t work. W of our greatest philosophers and scientists of the mind asks, where does the self come from–and how our selves can exist in the minds of others.

And then, when perception twists back and focuses on itself, as it inevitably will, you get rich, magical-seeming consequences. Second, when push comes to shove, Hofstadter, dyed in the wool scientist that he is, opts for the lawful, deterministic, and in principle entirely predictable universe of matter and physical forces as the most appropriate candidate for Ultimate Reality.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This is merely a re-hash of Hofstadter’s justly famous Godel, Escher, Bach: After declaring his theory “explained”, Hofstadter moves on to considerations of how one strange loop-abstraction, the one that fools me into the illusion of a stable “I”, is influenced and modified by others. But I found his numerous and lengthy discursions to be, for starters, only tangentially and vaguely associated with Godel incompleteness.


You get a level-crossing feedback loop whose apparent solidity dominates the reality of everything else in the world SL,my emphasis in bold. There are still reasons to believe that this is not the whole story. Views Read Edit View history. And for people who haven’t read the book, ‘soul’ doesn’t mean the Christian or religious soul, only a kind of cognition and introspection that seems to be uniquely developed in humans so if you think of humans as having the biggest souls, and define a soul as that human quality of thinking and introspection, then you really are talking about a self-referential loop!

Everything in our brain is a symbol, including the symbol of itself. Compulsively readable and endlessly thought-provoking, this is the book Hofstadter’s many readers have long been waiting for. H should know better than to publish ideas that are half a century out of date.

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That’s at least the clearest evidence I’ve ever found that when I’m not around, I have a certain influence in people’s heads, that they ask what I would do or think.

Pulitzer-Prize winner Douglas Hofstadter takes on some weighty and wonderful questions in I Am a Strange Loop –among them, the “size” of a soul and the vagaries of thought–and proposes persuasive answers that surprised me both with their simplicity and their sense of optimism: Jul 11, Jeffrey rated it really liked it Shelves: Add both to Cart Add both to List.

Matthew Rapaport Top Contributor: But it’s a delightful tromp on minds thru a fascinating mind. What came next is also relevant, and I hope I relate this right.

Or maybe something completely other is true that we have never even imagined. Yet who — or what — is doing this storytelling? Remember me on this computer.